At W1ZY didn't hold back in their praise the most outstanding conversation on television in the 21st century. I mean, that might be slightly a stretch, but it was a really interesting conversation and debate. And what I liked about it was is that although I disagree with a lot of what John Mitch I'm saying, he clearly knows his stuff. He's done his research and he's reached conclusions, which may differ to mine. It doesn't mean that he's right or wrong, where I'm right or wrong. But what it does mean is that viewers can hear both sides of a debate and they can work it out for themselves. Well, as is often the case, for some reason, many viewers saw the conversation as a contest at Yasser Raqaldi 6522 had little doubts about the winner. Remember, it's not just peers talking, there's a whole team behind the scenes. Professor Mishamah has intellectually defeated the team behind Piers Morgan. It's always gratifying to see intellectual honesty win the day. Well, look, just to be clear, I defeat my team intellectually all day every day. It's not an unusual occurrence for them, so they won't even have noticed. But look, did John Mishamah beat me? Like I say, it was a debate. I don't think anyone won or lost. You can make rational arguments on both sides as we did, and some people would agree with me and some with him. It's not actually a UFC fight. Well, at Abmajuku 8093, chose to interpret my arguments like this, Piers is British, but he wants American military bases all over the world. No, I don't. That's not what I said. I said it would have been sensible with hindsight and probably with foresight to have kept a small American military presence with other allied forces in Afghanistan, because without that, the whole thing collapsed the moment that we left overnight in that ridiculous decision by President Biden. And the result of that catastrophic failure of leadership was that the Taliban swept in and took charge all over again and have sent women back thousands of years back to the dark ages with their barbaric treatment of women. If that's a victory for freedom and democracy all the world, then I've got a little lesson for you. It ain't. Well, finally, at G-Mac Gorgadole, two, apparently there's a one, got a tiny bit carried away with his analysis. The professor said, you're welcome, Piers, but didn't go as far as to say thanks for having me. I thought that was significant. I think you're slightly over reading this. Honestly, they don't have to thank me for these periods. The one thing I'm sure about is that John Miesz, I'm, will be back because both of the interviews I've done with him have been two of our highest rated interviews that we've ever had on the show. People like to hear what he has to say and they're

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