i think it's actually misleading to look at things where we are not really focusing on them in a popular way and say, h puv arn't that polarized. Once they get into the political system, they collapse down to this unit of who will win the next election? I don't believe that what is happening is that people are amusing themselves with polarization over here. Whereas the political system is being run, people cannot see me making hand motions af the moment. But i do think that that move on from one issue to another has tremendous implications for how America governs its climate.

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