
9. Chaos in the House! And What We Expect from American Democracy in 2023
Is This Democracy
Is Kevin McCarthy the Establishment?
Perry: "I do think Kevin McCarthy is the establishment. I would play with these words a little bit" He says some people see McCarthy as kind of a phony radical conservative, someone who adopted Marjorie Taylor Greene's views in 2022 as opposed to 2016. Perry: Jim Jordan is voting for Kevin McCarthy because he wants to get Hunter Biden's laptop 'as fast as possible'
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