The Balance of Life

I think when there's when there's that balance feels really good and so that's one of the simplest answers to the balance is in my experience is do I have good play buddies working on things I care about. Sometimes we're in a high creative deluge and like you kind of do just have to throw out the necessities and and ride it, but other times it's a total drought. Just giving the experience of giving to others creatively and getting creatively from others is is kind of the undercurrent of balance to me.