DISCLAIMER: This episode was fully recorded in portuguese.
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In this episode, we sit down with Vítor Rodrigues, the founder and manager of Innovation Makers, for an insightful discussion on the intersection of technology and banking in Angola, with a keen eye on the broader landscape of financial inclusion across Africa.
Vítor walks us through the significant strides Angola has made in its banking infrastructure, highlighting the adoption of modern technologies like QR code payments [05:01], [05:24]. However, he emphasizes that a major hurdle remains: transitioning Angola from a cash-reliant economy to one that embraces digital payments, especially considering that only about 30% of the population currently has access to banking services [06:29], [06:38], [06:59], [07:17].
A key takeaway from our conversation is the importance of understanding the unique needs of the 70% of Angolans who are currently unbanked [07:35], [07:41], [07:48]. Vítor suggests that solutions like mobile wallets and systems for low-value payments could be crucial in bringing them into the financial fold [08:04]. We got into the challenges of digital payment adoption, such as the mechanics of getting money into digital wallets (e.g., through salaries or subsidies) [15:41], [15:50], [16:04] and ensuring these digital funds are easy to use and widely accepted [17:06], [17:20], [17:33].
Vítor stresses that technology alone isn't a silver bullet; incentives and education are vital to convince people of the value of digital financial tools [19:38], [20:09], [20:54]. He also shares lessons from past mobile money initiatives in Angola, noting that while on-the-ground sensitization and simple access points led to success, the discontinuation of such services can erode public trust [24:46], [25:03], [25:11], [25:56], [26:07].
The conversation also touches upon the symbiotic relationship between traditional banks and fintech companies in Angola. Vítor views fintechs not as direct competitors, but as complementary players that can serve niche markets and the unbanked, all under the regulatory oversight of the central bank [30:13], [30:52], [31:26], [31:35], [32:20].
Looking ahead, Vítor sees technology as a fundamental enabler for financial inclusion, breaking down barriers like the need for physical bank branches [33:50], [34:27]. He also anticipates that generational shifts will naturally accelerate the adoption of digital finance [38:28], [38:42]. We also explore the role of Artificial Intelligence (AI), which Vítor believes should augment human intelligence, enhancing services like self-service options and fraud detection, while acknowledging that AI introduces elements of probability and doubt not present in traditional computing [43:41], [43:50], [44:21], [45:13], [45:57], [46:07], [51:47], [52:42], [53:00].
Finally, Vítor identifies the most significant disruptive force for Africa's future: investing in its people. He argues that empowering individuals is the ultimate driver of change and technology adoption [56:44], [56:52], [57:27].
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