i guess no one knows who fred seaman is soatually. But before we get into, this is fascinating, antony and, and i don't mean to interrupt you, but noto er,. We are going to get into the er, into the details, and describing john and and, and also looking at some language that we could use to describe john lenon and his life. So in december was film gold, which is a film programme. And i noticed on your back episode you had an interview with rob ager, who have actually become a friend of yours. Plus, i love, is his scouse accent? Yesut a soft scouse.