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A lot of these policies are being driven by elite women who simply don't see the downsides because they just never, they're less likely to encounter them. And I think it's possible if you've just been sheltered in that way simply not to be able to imagine just how depraved some people can be. The problem is that pushing for effectively the abolition of sex in law is in the interests of this, of the upper-crest women. If you're a knowledge class worker, which is to say you're a barrister or you're a solicitor or an accountant or something, it is not in your class interests for the to be a serious conversation going on about men and women
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