i want to put that into dialogue with all these emerging practices around t collective intelligence. And i'm trying to put those together and get some clear picture. What you see in something like the platonic dialogue is not just an individual dialogue, it's a dialogue set into a icology of meta dialogues. Thetare also talking to each other, and that's exemplified in fede's work. So we have a great model there to give us a guide. I think this is very much what you see being modelled through the ancient traditions. It's the only way i can think of myself. That doesn't mean it's the best or the ultimate. This is a good

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