Fathering Without Conditions with Ted & Jalen Bunch
The Man Enough Podcast
The Importance of Being Prepared for Being Gay
"I was as prepared as a father could be for- I can't think of anybody more from there before they could then ten bucks," he said. "Once Jaylen began to fully express themselves, like it was new for me, right? Because from the time he was two, I was like really expecting that he was going to be gay."
Ted Bunch is a father to many. Today, Ted and Jalen Bunch share how a parent can make themselves a ‘safe space,’ how to model messy conversations and how love creates compassion beyond comprehension.
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About Jalen & Ted Bunch
Jalen Bunch is a multi-disciplinary non-binary, queer artist from New York, currently studying at the Boston Conservatory at the Berklee School of Music. They have been exploring the arts since age 10 such as Radio City Music Hall, opening for the Christmas Spectacular, and Carnegie Hall, singing alongside the rock band Foreigner. They are most known for their role as Lucas/Demogorgon in the original off-broadway cast of Stranger Sings!: The Parody Musical. They are currently directing The Vagina Monologues with their dear friend, Eli Douglas (He/They), in collaboration with V (formerly Eve Ensler) and the V-Day Team, at the Boston Conservatory.
Ted Bunch is Chief Development Officer of A Call to Men.. Bunch is a frequent guest on national television and radio programs like the TODAY Show and National Public Radio, and has served as a script consultant for the Emmy Award-winning television series “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit” and for the Tony-nominated Broadway musical Jagged Little Pill. Bunch is also an adviser to and trainer for the National Basketball Association. He has also provided training to the National Football League, National Hockey League, Major League Soccer, and Major League Baseball.
Show Notes
00:00 Episode Begins
03:36 Introducing Ted & Jalen Bunch
07:15 Ted & Jalen's Relationship
11:43 Parenting Queer Youth
16:44 Jalen's Anti-Coming Out Story
19:56 Being Non-Binary Changed Jalen For The Better
24:11 Gender is Subjective
25:34 How A Call to Men Transforms Men
29:48 How The Patriarchy Indicts Men
38:24 Creating Safe Spaces
43:48 Modeling Messy Conversations
48:05 What Ted Thinks Men Need to Unlearn
52:24 Building a Loving Family Through Divorce
01:03:02 Teaching Young Boys Consent
01:07:35 Preparing Your Children for Intimacy
01:11:29 What Does It Mean To Be Man Enough
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TED BUNCH
- Instagram: @ted.bunch
- Twitter: @tedbunch
JALEN BUNCH
- Instagram: @jalenbunch
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