There was clearly among Western virologists, there was a political preference for Donald Trump not to be proved right about something. There is an odd feature of the publication about these kinds of viruses before the pandemic. They went to this mine shaft in southern Yunnan where three people had died and three others got very sick after shoveling back guano. It's almost as if someone had taken a decision within the Chinese government that a line of work would be done.
When Matt Ridley joined us most recently, he and co-author Alina Chan - a molecular biologist specializing in gene therapy and cell engineering - had just released Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19, which defends why people ought to take the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis seriously.
One year later - now that the politicization regarding every aspect of Covid has subdued - Matt rejoins the podcast to discuss what he's learned over the past twelve months.
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