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Chris Hipkins: Prime Minister takes calls, blasts ED numbers bungle and says he doesn’t see kids ‘anywhere near enough’

Kerre Woodham Mornings Podcast

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How Do You Know It's Working?

How do you know it's working? Why keep going if you don't know it's worked? Well, I guess the challenge, Kerry, is what are your KPIs? Let's think about the alternatives. If we were to simply say, if someone's got themselves into trouble and is annoyed their neighbours, we're going to boot them out nowhere to go. They haven't been through it and to kill them. And if we boot them out with nowhere to go, then potentially we end up with a bigger problem.

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