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Kyle Kingsbury Podcast

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The First Time I Feel This Sadness?

Wen: The first time i lost my mam, wen. I was for when she left. So then connecting that to the dots of one is the first time that i felt this sadness? And so now, as my current self, i have the opportunity help him out. But he didn't want anything to do with me. When i was like, maam, i'm here to help. And before you know, we're hugging it out and having tears. And then he feels more integrated and safe in my heart again.

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