Is the Orb Still Relevant When Saturn Is Late in the Sign?

Episode 251 features an interview with astrologer Becca Tarnas where we talk about her work on the Red Book of Carl Jung, as well as the connection between outer planet cycles and recent world events. Becca practices archetypal astrology, and is the current editor of Archai: The Journal of Archetypal Cosmology, which recently released its seventh issue in January, titled Historical Roots and Current Flowerings. During the course of the interview we talk about her background in archetypal astrology, what it is like to be a second generation astrologer, why Jung's Red Book is important and relevant to astrologers, and how the recent Saturn-Pluto conjunction relates to events happening in the world now. Becca received her PhD in Philosophy and Religion at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, with a dissertation titled The Back of Beyond: The Red Books of C.G. Jung and J.R.R. Tolkien.  For those who were interested in the discussion about Jung's Red Book in this episode, I'd recommend checking out the longer lecture on her YouTube channel on The Astrology of Jung's Red Book. You can find out more information about Becca through her website: BeccaTarnas.com This episode is available in both audio and video versions below. Timestamps Here are some timestamps for topics covered at different points in the episode: 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:50 Becca's background 00:02:08 Archetype definition 00:08:16 Becca's astrology journey 00:11:00 Did she rebel against astrology? 00:17:00 Her astrology education 00:21:17 Archai Journal 00:24:56 Archetypal astrology 00:28:00 Technical disputes? 00:30:40 Archai Journal issue 7 00:36:25 Jung's Red Book 00:44:50 Archetypes and the Red Book 00:50:37 Uranus Neptune and the Red Book 00:54:38 Why Red Book wasn't published sooner 00:58:21 Jung's break with Freud 01:00:00 WWI 01:01:13 Jung's chart 01:02:27 1913-15 Saturn Pluto conjunction 01:07:18 Outer planet cycles 01:09:50 Obama and Uranus Pluto 01:12:30 Mary Wollstonecraft and Uranus Pluto 01:17:27 Saturn Pluto cycles 01:25:06 2020 Saturn Pluto conjunctions 01:32:33 Generational gifts 01:33:58 Jupiter Saturn 1980's 01:36:04 2020 presidential primary 01:37:45 Saturn Pluto stress test 01:39:10 Late 1980's chart 01:40:28 9/11 Saturn Pluto 01:44:19 More about Saturn Pluto 01:53:00 Saturn return orbs 01:57:23 Saturn Pluto future dates 02:19:16 Becca's work and contact info Watch the Video Version of This Episode Here is the video version of my interview with Becca Tarnas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ZalvvEID4 - Transcript A full transcript of this episode is available: Episode 251 transcript Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode You can either play the audio version of this episode of the podcast directly from the website or download it as an MP3 to your device by using the buttons below: