Dinaus: I think people may see us now and think, wow, either they're all really successful, or you're very generous. And i live by your generosity. You were just such an adventurer, which i think made me become a compulsively fearful person. Dinaus: We could have lost our lives in tokio; we could have died. But it was this mixing pot of cultures and religions and conversationsd., and parents and stepparentsnd,. and then two, and even nationality.

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