Most people have gotten into this kind of practice in a way that it became profoundly, widely important in their lives and practices. There's the possibility of them accessing an image or an imaginable perspective,. And then guiding them gently through that to open for them. They experience something that's more than just pain reduction; they experience soulfulness and beauty as well. It will be interesting what happens from this. Cusen: I would just give a personal a, a actully just reiteration. Am 52 years old, facing a possible early death.