The Division Over the Vaccines Created Distrust and Science

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I'm not aware of really any governments that got in the way. The most interesting thing about all of this is Trump did play up the vaccines for a long time until his crowd didn't want to hear about it anymore. It was sort of like he became a victim of the monster he created to some degree. And I think Anthony Fauci was the scientific leader behind the American response to the pandemic. He failed as a scientist, as a representative of the science.

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(00:00) – Introduction
(06:42) – Political ideologies
(16:10) – Twitter drama
(31:07) – Biden vs Trump
(38:07) – AOC
(40:47) – Bernie Sanders
(48:55) – Donald Trump: Pros and cons
(1:14:46) – Joe Biden: Pros and cons
(1:21:08) – Hate for politicians
(1:37:29) – RFK Jr
(1:50:48) – Republican voters
(1:57:30) – Conspiracy theories
(2:02:26) – January 6th
(2:11:31) – Hunter Biden’s laptop
(2:15:46) – Tucker Carlson
(2:18:44) – Wokeism and censorship
(2:37:11) – ChatGPT and universities
(2:43:10) – Libertarianism
(2:46:47) – Elon Musk
(2:55:14) – Dealing with attacks
(2:59:56) – Truth
(3:05:47) – Israel and Palestine
(3:09:41) – Ukraine war
(3:17:42) – Books
(3:28:22) – Mortality
(3:30:33) – Advice for young people
(3:32:05) – Hope for the future