Ryan: I like to end these podcasts with a challenge a challenge points to the place in your heart you think people should take everything we spoke about and actually do something with what we've spoke about or something we haven't spoken about into their day-to-day lives there's a challenge come to mind two sort of come to mind. The first would be to find like the people you look up to and going deep into their work um and letting that wear off when you a little bit and maybe make a list like Andrew Reuben did so that might be one but also just doing the work of like whether if it's writing start a blog, just start doing the thing that you
Billy Oppenheimer is a writer. He is also the research assistant for Ryan Holiday.
In this conversation, we spoke about the future of AI and writing, playing the long game, why everything is a remix, what he learned driving Robert Greene from the airport, and why the work is the win.