The Morality of Animal Testing

In this episode I am joined by Erik Jampa Andersson, a Sowa Rigpa healing practitioner, student of Tibetan Buddhism, meditation instructor, and author of ‘Unseen Beings: How We Forgot The World Is More Than Human’. Erik discusses how he came to write ‘Unseen Beings’ and why he changed its theme from the spirit ontologies of Tibetan culture to the themes of climate change and animism. Taking climate change as his starting premise, Erik follows a traditional 4-part medical model to make a diagnosis, and goes on to present his views on the causes and conditions, prognosis, and treatment. Erik also grapples with moral and cultural dilemmas, compares animal testing in a medical context to hunting practices and animal sacrifices in a traditional context, and challenges the anthropocentrism of both modern culture and the environmentalist movement. … Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep204-unseen-beings-erik-jampa-andersson Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’. … Topics include: 00:00 - Intro 01:02 - Celebrating Erik’s first book 02:15 - Unexpected praise 04:09 - Charlie Morley’s author advice 05:49 - 4-part medical model 06:48 - How the book changed direction from spirit ontology to climate change 10:36 - The inspiration of the pandemic 12:44 - Summarising Erik’s argument 13:36 - Rinpoches performing rituals to appease the spirits who sent the pandemic 15:24 - Animism vs materialism 20:21 - A scientific materialist challenge to animism 29:59 - Tolkien on gods and fairy tales 32:58 - Ian McGilchrist and harmonising vs polarisation 37:26 - Should we abandon modernity? 39:19 - Generalisation vs individuality 41:20 - Disenchanting ontologies 43:00 - The danger of sweeping generalisations 44:27 - The lived experience of mice 46:45 - Alienation from nature 51:21 - Moral nuance and confused views 55:46 - Erik considers hunting in animistic societies 58:19 - The trolley problem and perceived consent in hunting 01:00:15 - Is animal sacrifice justified within certain cultural contexts? 01:05:57 - Stewarding the resources of the world 01:08:43 - Anthropocentrism vs animism 01:10:41 - Erik on the climate crisis 01:13:09 - The bloody history of Tibet and other nations … Previous episode with Erik Jampa Andersson: - https://www.guruviking.com/ep108-erik-jampa-andersson-from-tolkien-to-tibet/
 To find out more about Erik Jampa Andersson, visit: - https://www.shrimala.com/ 
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