It's really hard to calculate the human cost of either the coronavirus or the effects of the containment measures, which one will kill more people. The UK government did have that approach behind herd immunity when I talked to my dad about two weeks ago now. But since then, the government has completely changed its position and has put the country on lockdown. We're going to talk about a gentleman in Moscow, a 2016 novel by Amor Towels, AMORTOWES.

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