I think it's helpful for a large number of people, especially people who've come from religion. I can definitely see it as detrimental for people like me who should not be listening to those things. And so trying to contain myself, it makes me want to jump off a roof. But I like the idea too, that it's just for some people, they're going to come in hot and fast. Like they need to skip all the steps because it's almost going to like hurt them more.

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