Jason: This has just been a truly valuable and memorable experience with erin gustofson. I know our listeners are gonna just love this episode and get so much out of it and definitely get the book uh defenders. Erin, thank you for all you do and all you continue to do for our field. Jason: You can also take advantage of an exclusive defender discount of a whopping 35% off by using discount code defenders at peach pit dot com slash adaptive.