Secretary of State Tony Blinken
Pod Save the World
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Orse Ukrane Matters
i think we all know there's no real substitute for doing things face to face, or at least mask to mask these days. But actually being there on the ground and sort of putting yourself where these people had been, gives you a pretty palpable feeld foror what people had done to stand up for their own democratic right to choose the future of their country. And if we let that go with impunity, then i think we open a huge pandora's box where it's other autocratic countries around the world, like russia, that say, we're going to do this too. That is a recipe for conflict. It's a recipe for chaos. It’s a recipe
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