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How Much Code Do You Really Write?
I think a lot of that disdain comes from those whole generation of case tools, these computer-assisted software engineering tools. So we used to sort of tongue-in-cheek call some of those environments cartoons to code where you draw lines between things and create connections or workflow engines. That's another word of our derogatory terms for tools like this. But as you out was saying it, this is really a kind of spectrum for one end to the other of how much code do you actually write? And that gets more into the low-code kind of stuff.