Is It Shameful to Take Any Lover?

He says it is not shameful for people in these other countries. He mentions Alice and Boetia, right? These who would be considered quote unquote barbaric cultures. They don't use the logos to inspire to seduce or to entice because they're more animalistic. And he wants to suggest that unlike us in Athens, where we're more cultured,. We have these restrictions and we know it's shameful to take any lover. The man with the best words should be the best suitor.