AI and the Kernel of the Issue

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I was trying to put a collaborative agents interacting framework on a like physical reality. And it turns out that I couldn't get some of the results I wanted because nothing stops one actor from being powerful enough that they can just run away with everything. Simply put, is this kind of, are you just combining mollock problems and the bankless nation is pretty familiar with mollock problem. My guess is that it's not and it's worse than exponential curve. If you make something that is optimizing the world and it's optimizing the world towards some target that doesn't have concern for you in it then there will be no room for us.

In this episode, we delve into the frontier of AI and the challenges surrounding AI alignment. The AI / Crypto overlap at Zuzalu sparked discussions on topics like ZKML, MEV bots, and the integration of AI agents into the Ethereum landscape.

However, the focal point was the alignment conversation, which showcased both pessimistic and resigned optimistic perspectives. We hear from Nate Sores of MIRI, who offers a downstream view on AI risk, and Deger Turan, who emphasizes the importance of human alignment as a prerequisite for aligning AI. Their discussions touch on epistemology, individual preferences, and the potential of AI to assist in personal and societal growth.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro 1:50 Guests

5:30 NATE SOARES 7:25 MIRI 13:30 Human Coordination 17:00 Dangers of Superintelligence 21:00 AI’s Big Moment 24:45 Chances of Doom 35:35 A Serious Threat 42:45 Talent is Scarce 48:20 Solving the Alignment Problem 59:35 Dealing with Pessimism 1:03:45 The Sliver of Utopia

1:14:00 DEGER TURAN 1:17:00 Solving Human Alignment 1:22:40 Using AI to Solve Problems 1:26:30 AI Objectives Institute 1:31:30 Epistemic Security 1:36:18 Curating AI Content 1:41:00 Scalable Coordination 1:47:15 Building Evolving Systems 1:54:00 Independent Flexible Systems 1:58:30 The Problem is the Solution 2:03:30 A Better Future

----- Resources

Nate Soares https://twitter.com/So8res?s=20

Deger Turan https://twitter.com/degerturann?s=20

MIRI https://intelligence.org/

Less Wrong AI Alignment xhttps://www.lesswrong.com/tag/ai-alignment-intro-materials

AI Objectives Institute https://aiobjectives.org/

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