Roman Catholic Church Reformation

adam: The catholics despite whatever reality the institution has have a really good handle on rhetoric and polemics no i'm angry that way you set that up uh... that lutherans are saying this and that um... catholics are using this as a way to it was a plemic but their plummox working that irritates me it does work. Adam: It's not lutheran saying the reformation was bad but definitely i've seen it saying something that it's like it was a necessary it's a heartbreaking reality that shouldn't have to exist so we shouldn't celebrate it  i actually think we can get that I don't know what we're doing on this