I Think the Sky Is the Limit for Virtual Worlds

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You talk in the book about different possible virtual worlds, we probably have options of different kind of worlds to visit. And you mentioned this scenario where NASA might make available a virtual world where you can fly through space or, you know, get in spaceships and explore like a highly accurate simulation of the galaxy. One can imagine like museums or nonprofits building meta versus dedicated to art, to artistic expression or what have you. Yeah, I think the sky is the limit for for virtual worlds.

Last year, Rufus sat down with philosopher David Chalmers to talk about the allure of virtual reality, whether robots will ever achieve consciousness, and the likelihood that we’re living in a simulation (David thinks it’s about 25 percent). It was a fascinating, freewheeling conversation, and we left large chunks of it on the cutting room floor. Now, though, with ChatGPT and other generative AI platforms taking the world by storm, those unaired sections, many of which were about the ethics of artificial intelligence, feel super relevant. So today, we’re sharing our complete interview with David. Buckle up. It’s a wild ride.