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E11: Katherine Boyle on Building Companies, Families, and Careers

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Power of Grunt Work

"I do believe in grunt work. I was a manager for the men's basketball team in Michigan, University of Michigan and also at IMG Academy," he says. "There's just something about just like being on the total bottom and just 100% grinding ... that it is just really inspiring." It matters that Jeff Bezos worked at McDonald's when he was in high school; how many CEOs have that experience now? He adds: "It can teach you a lot about how society works".

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