Where BNPL debt ends up

This week, we talk about two of the biggest economic stories of 2025: Buy Now Pay Later and $Trump.

First, Amanda Mull stops by to discuss BNPL: why its on the rise, how people use it, potential pitfalls and how it's different than just paying with a credit card.

Then, Zeke Faux goes through the implausible story of $Trump - the Donald Trump meme coin launched just a few days before the 2025 inauguration. Faux tells Max and Stacey how the Trump team made an estimated $350 million on the coin, while many investors lost money.

Also: tepid jobs numbers and new opportunities in sports for the older parts of the population.

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