I don't actually totally buy the big generational, you know, sort of stereotypes. But I do think there was this dynamic in with the came with the rise of the internet where sort of the old people who used to dominate New Zealand's boss every year suddenly were like afraid of the young people who knew all this stuff they didn't. So if you're an all star writer who drives more traffic, the folks who now run Vox, BuzzFeed, vice, whatever it is that you decided to unionize will now just point to the pay scale and say, yeah, you're here for years, here's your pay scale. And then in six years, you'll be at this level.

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