Joel allerton is still around. He kind of became a celebrity after this book came out. He's now in like, the least twisty twist ever. He held a bunch meetings during the pendemic where he made people turn off their cell phones because covet is caused by five g oh boy. It's really obvious this guy has somhe, like, really ugly beliefs. And not like cute, robert nos tike night watchman state libertarian beliefs, but like, weird, conspiratorial beliefs. Michael Pollin just doesn't touch it at all.