What do people care about is relevant to what we should do. There's the scale of world government, national government, local, regional, and community neighborhood individual family. The idea that people would in the face of those things become less passionate about the thing they're doing would just start the cascade of everything getting worse faster. We want these conversations to help contextualize where you are in the world,. But ultimately to enhance your sense of the meaningfulness of everybody's actions rather than otherwise. And I'd like to have Lizzie, the podcast curator, maybe do a summary of all five of these in one place.

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