I love this idea of the defiant person who's not supposed to count, who counts an awful lot. I think that for me, it's always given me so much hope and courage to think about the way we circumvent the powers that don't want us to matter. We're going to have a subculture if we can't have culture. And eventually our subculture will become even more important. So I see this happening throughout time, throughout history of how the sense of defiance is growing.