Black, Why Are You Doing This?

Danny Cevallos: I think having people in your life who call you out on your crap, which i do, and i'm lucky for that. Like really find some people who can really point out the hard stuff. Heather Black:  i feel like i'm just now starting to come into my voice a little bit more. And i've been doing it for a few years now, me, not a horribly long time, but three, four years now.