The Hardest Thing I've Ever Been Through

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I was like an incredible athlete growing up, like insane. And I went to college for lacrosse and I got there and I had zero work ethic. So that was a shitty moment for me was just like not being the best at something or whatever it was. Ever since that day, it's like part of me wants to prove everyone wrong about how good I can be at this one thing,. It's ultimately like a massive flaw for me. But my real life is getting better. The way that I interact with my physical environment is improving almost every day. That helps me really know what I can actually value. Because when you're you know this, when you become a creator, it

Zack Telander is a creator.

In this conversation, we spoke about why social media can mess up your values, making better friends, Zack’s current internal battle, and much more.

(0:00) Intro

(1:33) Learning How To Edit

(7:33) Documenting Is Lazy

(10:51) Social Media Messes Up Your Values

(19:51) Creative Process For Music

(23:12) Balancing Your Life In An Algorithmic World

(30:21) Learnings From Journalist Father

(33:25) Work Ethic Regrets

(38:30) Social Media Is Optimizing For Wrong Things

(44:21) Zack’s Internal Battle