Sustainable tourism is about not being extractid, when you go to a place and really regenerate the space that you visit. To protect wild species, we also need to protect the places and the habitats that they live in. And so working with them soat all kinds ties together into this beautiful mosaic of life that we have. So what we call conservation tourism, which is taking a step forward from egotorism. We will design torisume to get to those basic tenets. But intrinsic to that, i think jane was saying, these are not always uninhabited people. They are indigenous peoples, local communities, local farmers that are all in those landscapes and have been for generations