Vijay: There's a huge amount of money at play here. One renewable energy firm who's going to benefit both from some of the special subsidies for hydrogen energy or some of the newer types of energy, but also just from installing green energies like solar that they've already been doing. He said, there's so much money coming. We stop counting. So clearly spending is up. And that suggests that companies feel that lobbyists have something to offer. But how much influence do you think that they really will in Washington? Vijay: This seems like the worst forms of corruption and influence peddling.