Tracy: Companies that don't have G on a team, without discernment, can be a problem. I would come to work ready to do invention and discernment but it starts to burn them out. And instead of me realizing, Oh, this, I'm just not good at this,. I would galvanize and galvanizing and galvanize and I would start to get a little pissed off about it. Tracey: We produced more in the following two years than we had in the, in the previous 10. That's because people were actually doing things outside of my area before they knew what it was.