i was studying their rational uses of the rain forest. They themselves said that at the heart of their knowledge of the rain Forest there was this irrational, shamanic, hallucinatory sphere. So i then chickened out and turned my back on the whole thing. And so it took about eight years between the time of having the initial iowaska experience and then getting to a place where i could no longer ignore that question. I started writing the book the cosmic serpent to deal with that question. What does it mean when these people living in the most bio divers place on earth say that a good part of their knowledge about ans and animals and the forest comes from the visions of their shamens?

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