i think to understand this we do really have to talk about what i call progressive neo liberalism. So there's this kind of te veneer of a progressive and seemingly agalitarian, emancipatory aspirations that got tied up. And i do think bill clinton is the sthekeyor architect of all this with the so called new democrats. A sot the working and and many parts of what people wh would call themselves middle class, have been clobbered by this political economy. An important segment of them, this was trump's genius, but he didn't invent it.