There should be one chief automate or not chief automation officer, but someone who knows how to automate and just pair them with teams. And then from there, I bet anyone, myself included, who tries to automate what I can, they would just pick up so many things of like, why are you doing that at all? So I think you should also have this for team collaboration. The problem is even, let's say that hypothetically you only have 10 people, even though you've been 10 people for three years, just 10 people has created enough habit that even getting an automation person's in now will be impossible.

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