
Cowboy Forecasting: The Power of Fast Informed Estimates on the Back of an Envelope
Run the Numbers
The Art and Science of Informed Estimates
Kevin shares heuristics for making educated guesses, using analogs and reaching 'good enough' estimates for decisions.
In the early days of a startup, forecasting isn’t about nailing the numbers, it’s about setting the course. In this episode, the world’s most interesting CFO describes the art of “Cowboy forecasting” and how this back-of-the-envelope model can be far more valuable than a complex simulation. Kevin Drost started his career as a musician and talent scout for Sony before becoming the chief strategy officer of the music gear marketplace Reverb. Now, as the CFO of New Era ADR, he explains how the company is disrupting the notoriously expensive legal industry by replacing the billable hour with flat fees, and making dispute resolution faster and more predictable for businesses. The conversation also covers why simplicity often beats complexity in financial modeling, how a hands-on understanding of the product and customer builds real financial confidence, and how finance teams can empower every employee to understand and drive the business.
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LINKS:
Kevin Drost on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevindrost
New Era ADR:
https://www.neweraadr.com
CJ on X (@cjgustafson222): https://x.com/cjgustafson222
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview and Intro
(02:40) Sponsor – Aleph | RightRev | Navan
(07:18) Kevin’s Music Background & A&R at Sony
(12:09) Record Labels Versus Venture Capital
(17:01) Sponsor – Rillet | Pulley | Brex
(20:53) Finding Motivation After Success
(21:34) Building Reverb & the Etsy Acquisition
(25:33) Stacking Skillsets & Interests
(27:11) Cowboy Forecasting at Reverb
(32:01) The Importance of Simplicity in Forecasting in the Early Stages
(35:46) The Art and Science of Making Estimated Guesses
(41:42) Building Firsthand Customer & Product Knowledge
(45:36) Teaching Finance Across the Company
(50:44) New Era ADR & Legal Industry Disruption
(57:35) Legal Strategy Versus Financial Strategy
(1:01:30) How New Era Gets Parties To Use the Platform
(1:05:27) Other White Hot Use Cases for New Era ADR
(1:09:25) The Long Ass Lightning Round: Kevin’s Biggest Mistake
(1:12:41) Advice to a Younger Self
(1:14:01) Finance Software Stack
(1:15:21) Life as an A&R Rep
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