I think there's huge gratitude. My husband, before I met him, had been made sort of effectively homeless when he was in his late teens and he was thrown out of home. He appreciated so many things that everybody else takes for granted. Like when we owned our first washing machine, he'd go in and say goodnight to it every night. And I think it's really good to feel like that about the world around you,. It's there's great gratitude there. Yeah, I think that will never leave me. But yeah, if I don't talk about homelessness in that situation, then I feel as if I'm letting people down.

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