I often find that there's such a difference between doing in person interviews and doing them virtually. When you hug or when you're with somebody closer in connection, there is something that's happening. In fact, you walk into a room sometimes and you'll know how the energy just feels often here. And I know I feel I feel real woo, woo, even saying that I'm allergic to woo, woo nonsense. But you feel it. There's no, there's no denying. The electromagnetic frequency of being in the same room with someone. You can prove those things with science but who cares? Set that aside. How does it make you feel?"

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