I think that it makes sense to allow immigrants who can actually add something into our economy and bring skills. But the problem we have is that if you want to take that reasonable position, you're told that you basically have to accept a situation of de facto open borders,. No, you don't. These are two separate things. They've become conflated. So is the number one party that conflates these two issues? You know they're two separate issues. The Democratic Party has conflate these issues. Okay, both parties are conflating them. Here at the All-In Podcast, can we agree that one group of people could recruit. And people for PhD programs about one