Grafton: All of these crises fuel this kind of nastalgia that we're seeing in the culture and our politics. It ranges from like a patriotic heritage flavor of nastalga, whether that's after nine elevenor the nostalgia that trumpedkind of induced in populations or spread about. Grafton: I always go back to the early lock downs, when there were no new sporting events,. There were no new episodes of any of your shows or what not, there was a lot of old stuff being rebooted. And even that sort of light fanned the flames of Nastalja.