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Olympian Katie Hoff On Embracing The Suck & Alchemizing Pain Into Gratitude

The Rich Roll Podcast

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I've Never Done a Podcast Like This in Person Person. Look Like a Studio.

Katy Perry met Jessie itler for the first time on her new podcast. The two have a mutual friend, Kurt steinhorst, who is a speech coach and has also worked with jessie. She was blown away by his crisma and his energy an his story. It's actually a really kind of crazy jump connect story.

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