I mean, we're in a pretty bad spot right now. We've wasted 30 years. But at the same time, we also know that if we really commit to this, reject denial, get serious about doing something, then things can happen pretty quickly. And particularly once technological innovation gets going, then it can have a kind of positive feedback effect. I mean, for me, just coming back to visit, having been living in Massachusetts for the last five years, there are so many more electric cars here than there are in Massachusetts.

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