Wade Foster, co-founder and CEO of Zapier, joins Henrik and Jeremy to talk about how AI is changing the company from the inside out. He shares the moment Zapier declared a “code red” on AI and the steps they took to turn urgency into action — encouraging more experiments, removing tolerance for inaction, and celebrating wins along the way.
Wade discusses his own AI use cases, the importance of internal examples in driving adoption, and why duplication of efforts can speed up learning. He reflects on the leadership challenge of guiding a 14-year-old company through cultural transformation, balancing productivity gains with employee well-being, and preparing for a future where AI agents work with each other.
This episode offers a clear, practical look at what it takes to embed AI into an established organization, and keep it moving forward.
Key Takeaways:
- A “code red” can be a catalyst for real change.
When Zapier declared a company-wide “code red” on AI, it wasn’t just a signal. It pushed people to experiment more, act faster, and rethink established ways of working. - Culture is harder to change than technology.
The real challenge wasn’t getting the tools in place, it was getting people to use them. Zapier’s approach focused on rewarding curiosity, sharing internal examples, and removing tolerance for inaction. - Duplication can drive innovation.
Instead of centralizing all AI projects, Zapier encouraged parallel efforts. When multiple teams tackled similar problems, they often uncovered different and better solutions more quickly. - Leadership in the AI era is about speed and sustainability.
Henrik and Jeremy highlight how Wade’s approach blends urgency with care for the people doing the work. Productivity gains matter, but so does avoiding burnout and making AI adoption last.
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00:00 Setting Company Culture: Rewards and Tolerances
00:43 The Rise of AI at Zapier
02:19 Wade's Social Media Presence
05:06 Challenges in AI Adoption
07:32 Personal Use of AI: Health Tracking
10:21 Business Applications of AI
13:34 Automating Repetitive Tasks
20:35 Voice of Customer Program
24:26 Customer Brief Generator
33:27 Code Red: Embracing AI
35:32 Subtle Encouragement and the Impact of GPT-4
36:38 Code Red: A Turning Point
36:51 Embracing AI: From Fear to Familiarity
38:13 The Journey to AI Adoption
39:11 Challenges in Organizational Change
40:41 Managing Resistance and Encouraging Experimentation
43:55 Building a Remote Culture with AI
46:29 The Future of Work and AI
48:33 Agent-to-Agent Communication
51:32 The Importance of Duplication in Innovation
56:43 Final Thoughts
📜 Read the transcript for this episode: Transcript of Inside Zapier’s Code Red: How Wade Foster Hit Pause to Reinvent for AI
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Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
