Coinbase's Lightning Network

It depends. I mean, I'm not sure Bit refill is the best source to say how popular it is because that's one use case, right? But we've seen the network grow steadily over the last few years. And especially last year, you can see that the allocation towards the big nodes, the large destinations, exchanges, merchants, all this, that is increasing. So that also indicates that there is usage there. There is no point for routing nodes or small operators or the other operators to allocate capital to nodes where it's not being used.